Irmi Horn & Henrik Sande
In the 4th wave of a pandemic that is visibly almost impossible to get under control, Irmi Horn & Henrik Sande create a programme for interested people and let Doris Lessing have her say. Although the essay dates from 1986, it has plenty of relevance to our present time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lGD9s5FHAc
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